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		<title>Comment on how to make the most of being a n00b by christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Jenna.

One of the first readings i assign to my students is a 2007 NY Times article by Harriet Rubin titled &quot;C.E.O. Libraries Reveal Keys to Success.&quot;  One of the underlying themes is the importance of looking at any field and its associated discourse (i point out to my students, as do you, that _every_ field has its own discourse) from a different perspective. Rubin writes: 

&quot;Poetry speaks to many C.E.O.’s. &#039;I used to tell my senior staff to get me poets as managers,&#039; says Sidney Harman, founder of Harman Industries, a $3 billion producer of sound systems for luxury cars, theaters and airports. Mr. Harman maintains a library in each of his three homes, in Washington, Los Angeles and Aspen, Colo. &#039;Poets are our original systems thinkers,&#039; he said. &#039;They look at our most complex environments and they reduce the complexity to something they begin to understand.&#039;&quot;
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“Almost everything I have read has been useful to me — science, poetry, politics, novels. I have a lifelong interest in epistemology and learning. My books have helped me develop a way of thinking critically in business and in golf — a fabulous metaphor for the most interesting stuff in life. My library is full of things I might go back to.”

I agree with Rubin, and especially with Sidney Harman on the value of poets in any field, and have already seen evidence that your system thinking abilities are bringing clarity to our thinking about organizations.  I&#039;m still waiting, however, for you to write the official SociaLens poem :)

( http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/21/business/21libraries.html?ex=1342756800&amp;en=bf1211dfff7b232d&amp;ei=5124 )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Jenna.</p>
<p>One of the first readings i assign to my students is a 2007 NY Times article by Harriet Rubin titled &#8220;C.E.O. Libraries Reveal Keys to Success.&#8221;  One of the underlying themes is the importance of looking at any field and its associated discourse (i point out to my students, as do you, that _every_ field has its own discourse) from a different perspective. Rubin writes: </p>
<p>&#8220;Poetry speaks to many C.E.O.’s. &#8216;I used to tell my senior staff to get me poets as managers,&#8217; says Sidney Harman, founder of Harman Industries, a $3 billion producer of sound systems for luxury cars, theaters and airports. Mr. Harman maintains a library in each of his three homes, in Washington, Los Angeles and Aspen, Colo. &#8216;Poets are our original systems thinkers,&#8217; he said. &#8216;They look at our most complex environments and they reduce the complexity to something they begin to understand.&#8217;&#8221;<br />
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“Almost everything I have read has been useful to me — science, poetry, politics, novels. I have a lifelong interest in epistemology and learning. My books have helped me develop a way of thinking critically in business and in golf — a fabulous metaphor for the most interesting stuff in life. My library is full of things I might go back to.”</p>
<p>I agree with Rubin, and especially with Sidney Harman on the value of poets in any field, and have already seen evidence that your system thinking abilities are bringing clarity to our thinking about organizations.  I&#8217;m still waiting, however, for you to write the official SociaLens poem <img src='http://www.socialens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>( <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/21/business/21libraries.html?ex=1342756800&#038;en=bf1211dfff7b232d&#038;ei=5124" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/21/business/21libraries.html?ex=1342756800&#038;en=bf1211dfff7b232d&#038;ei=5124</a> )</p>
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		<title>Comment on Social Media Doesn&#8217;t Solve Policy Problems by Caroline Rodgers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline Rodgers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good article - southwest ailrines I am sure will be feeling the pain from such a high profile incident. They made a good attempt to turn a negative into a positive but think it may well still have a lasting effect in the memories of other potential passengers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good article &#8211; southwest ailrines I am sure will be feeling the pain from such a high profile incident. They made a good attempt to turn a negative into a positive but think it may well still have a lasting effect in the memories of other potential passengers!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Student Viral Videos by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google search JQ &quot;GO DOWN AND SHOW&quot;--- thats a student at indiana..look at all the girls dancing--- one word: genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google search JQ &#8220;GO DOWN AND SHOW&#8221;&#8212; thats a student at indiana..look at all the girls dancing&#8212; one word: genius.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fear of Twitter? by Jay Steele</title>
		<link>http://www.socialens.com/2010/02/13/fear-of-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Umair - re: &quot;I think a more data driven survey of managers across various industries would be very interesting on this topic. I think the results will vary markedly across industries. It is very hard to generalize and say ‘managers’.&quot;

Stay tuned. That is exactly what we are researching right now. Our forthcoming book will be reporting on our findings. Interestingly enough, preliminary research seems to indicate that the type of industry/field is not as much of a driver as are some other characteristics - of both individuals within the organization and whether or not the organization itself is a &quot;learning organization&quot; as defined by Peter Senge and Chris Argyris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Umair &#8211; re: &#8220;I think a more data driven survey of managers across various industries would be very interesting on this topic. I think the results will vary markedly across industries. It is very hard to generalize and say ‘managers’.&#8221;</p>
<p>Stay tuned. That is exactly what we are researching right now. Our forthcoming book will be reporting on our findings. Interestingly enough, preliminary research seems to indicate that the type of industry/field is not as much of a driver as are some other characteristics &#8211; of both individuals within the organization and whether or not the organization itself is a &#8220;learning organization&#8221; as defined by Peter Senge and Chris Argyris.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fear of Twitter? by Umair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Umair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, I don&#039;t think being &#039;on something&#039; stops anyone from getting &#039;onto something&#039;. :) 
Manager or non-manager, I think fear of twitter is due to lack of understanding of what Twitter (or other social media tools) is/are, and what can it do for them personally and professionally.
I think a more data driven survey of managers across various industries would be very interesting on this topic. I think the results will vary markedly across industries. It is very hard to generalize and say &#039;managers&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, I don&#8217;t think being &#8216;on something&#8217; stops anyone from getting &#8216;onto something&#8217;. <img src='http://www.socialens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Manager or non-manager, I think fear of twitter is due to lack of understanding of what Twitter (or other social media tools) is/are, and what can it do for them personally and professionally.<br />
I think a more data driven survey of managers across various industries would be very interesting on this topic. I think the results will vary markedly across industries. It is very hard to generalize and say &#8216;managers&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fear of Twitter? by jsteele</title>
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		<dc:creator>jsteele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you can extend this beyond Twitter, which is simply one representation of social media, and more specifically public-facing social media. There is no question that fear is a driving motivator in this case. As Chad pointed out, the basis for that fear can come from several different sources. In order to more specifically identify the nature of the existing environment. Considering the &quot;traditional&quot; business models you (Christian) referred to, some of the fundamental principles underlying them include structure, hierarchy, standards, processes, stability and other forms directed towards algorithms, mastery, and specialization.

The combination of electronic speed and digital representation that exist in new media have promoted change, complexity, networks, multi-disciplinarity, innovation, exploration, and collaboration. The emergence of social media applications such as Twitter are derivatives of the transformation taking place as a result of the digitization of media. For those who do not invest the resources (time and money) to understand, fear is a natural response - fear of the unknown, fear of change, fear of failure, and fear of rejection.

I find it interesting to read Drew&#039;s observations of his experiences with two different organizations. I do not know the particulars, but I would imagine that the designerly nature of the environment at Disney Animation would predispose them to being more open to Twitter and other forms of social media. I talked about this in my most recent post on my own blog.

I definitely think you are onto something here, Christian. I would imagine that the responses you point out are symptoms of an underlying root problem, notably fear. In order to effectively treat an illness, it helps to properly diagnose the problem. I think you are heading in the right direction. Keep digging!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you can extend this beyond Twitter, which is simply one representation of social media, and more specifically public-facing social media. There is no question that fear is a driving motivator in this case. As Chad pointed out, the basis for that fear can come from several different sources. In order to more specifically identify the nature of the existing environment. Considering the &#8220;traditional&#8221; business models you (Christian) referred to, some of the fundamental principles underlying them include structure, hierarchy, standards, processes, stability and other forms directed towards algorithms, mastery, and specialization.</p>
<p>The combination of electronic speed and digital representation that exist in new media have promoted change, complexity, networks, multi-disciplinarity, innovation, exploration, and collaboration. The emergence of social media applications such as Twitter are derivatives of the transformation taking place as a result of the digitization of media. For those who do not invest the resources (time and money) to understand, fear is a natural response &#8211; fear of the unknown, fear of change, fear of failure, and fear of rejection.</p>
<p>I find it interesting to read Drew&#8217;s observations of his experiences with two different organizations. I do not know the particulars, but I would imagine that the designerly nature of the environment at Disney Animation would predispose them to being more open to Twitter and other forms of social media. I talked about this in my most recent post on my own blog.</p>
<p>I definitely think you are onto something here, Christian. I would imagine that the responses you point out are symptoms of an underlying root problem, notably fear. In order to effectively treat an illness, it helps to properly diagnose the problem. I think you are heading in the right direction. Keep digging!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fear of Twitter? by christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 19:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drew, thanks for the comment.  Very interesting comparison of the two cultures, especially given the normally-secretive culture at Disney (at least Imagineering was very secretive when i worked there).  

Chad, thanks for your comment too.  Lots of interesting thoughts there.

For both of your sets of examples, do you think the sort of functional resistance (for example &quot;i don&#039;t want to know what employees think&quot;) would be sufficient to result in the types of emotionally-charged reactions i received?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew, thanks for the comment.  Very interesting comparison of the two cultures, especially given the normally-secretive culture at Disney (at least Imagineering was very secretive when i worked there).  </p>
<p>Chad, thanks for your comment too.  Lots of interesting thoughts there.</p>
<p>For both of your sets of examples, do you think the sort of functional resistance (for example &#8220;i don&#8217;t want to know what employees think&#8221;) would be sufficient to result in the types of emotionally-charged reactions i received?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fear of Twitter? by Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will respond to this well-written account with some poorly-written frankness.

We fear what we do not understand.  &quot;No one cares what I had for lunch!&quot; can be translated into a lot of things:

1.&quot; I think Twitter users don&#039;t talk about anything more substantial than lunch.  I am as ill-informed about the value of Twitter as people who ban/burn books that are &quot;bad&quot; even when they haven&#039;t read them.&quot;

2. &quot;I feel like I need to dismiss this new social media thing because if I acknowledge its worth, and I am not really into it all that much, then I am a dinosaur.  Denial is a stage of loss.  By denying its worth I get to pretend that my current approach to my position is still relevant.&quot;

3. &quot;I don&#039;t immediately know how to make money with that.&quot;

4. &quot;Who cares about Twitter?  In 2 years we won&#039;t remember Twitter because some other new thing will have taken its place.  But I will still be here.&quot;

5. &quot;Why would I want to listen to my employees&#039; opinions about things?  I have an MBA.  I know better than them.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will respond to this well-written account with some poorly-written frankness.</p>
<p>We fear what we do not understand.  &#8220;No one cares what I had for lunch!&#8221; can be translated into a lot of things:</p>
<p>1.&#8221; I think Twitter users don&#8217;t talk about anything more substantial than lunch.  I am as ill-informed about the value of Twitter as people who ban/burn books that are &#8220;bad&#8221; even when they haven&#8217;t read them.&#8221;</p>
<p>2. &#8220;I feel like I need to dismiss this new social media thing because if I acknowledge its worth, and I am not really into it all that much, then I am a dinosaur.  Denial is a stage of loss.  By denying its worth I get to pretend that my current approach to my position is still relevant.&#8221;</p>
<p>3. &#8220;I don&#8217;t immediately know how to make money with that.&#8221;</p>
<p>4. &#8220;Who cares about Twitter?  In 2 years we won&#8217;t remember Twitter because some other new thing will have taken its place.  But I will still be here.&#8221;</p>
<p>5. &#8220;Why would I want to listen to my employees&#8217; opinions about things?  I have an MBA.  I know better than them.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fear of Twitter? by Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve experienced management embrace technologies like Twitter more than revile it. I guess it depends on the industry, too. A company with a good working environment may want this information to be shared, where a company with a bad working environment might not want their dirty laundry aired to the world.

When I was working for Deloitte, there was a great fear of &quot;blogging about work&quot;, mostly because this &#039;blogging&#039; (forum posts) was actually bitching about the state of the organization. For example, the creators of GreenDotLife.com, a place for employees to anonymously talk about the firm, were let go of by management (or quit shortly after being discovered). The firm management was deeply afraid of anything that might make the company look bad, because frankly, the work environment wasn&#039;t very good and they were afraid of the light ;)

My experience at Disney Animation, however, was that they embraced social technologies. Our manager encouraged us to use Yammer, but did not discourage us from using Twitter! Even in a place where they had to keep a tight control over the content, they embrace social media!

My take on it is that a manager who is afraid of something like Twitter is also afraid of having an earnest conversation with their employees about the state of the organization and their work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve experienced management embrace technologies like Twitter more than revile it. I guess it depends on the industry, too. A company with a good working environment may want this information to be shared, where a company with a bad working environment might not want their dirty laundry aired to the world.</p>
<p>When I was working for Deloitte, there was a great fear of &#8220;blogging about work&#8221;, mostly because this &#8216;blogging&#8217; (forum posts) was actually bitching about the state of the organization. For example, the creators of GreenDotLife.com, a place for employees to anonymously talk about the firm, were let go of by management (or quit shortly after being discovered). The firm management was deeply afraid of anything that might make the company look bad, because frankly, the work environment wasn&#8217;t very good and they were afraid of the light <img src='http://www.socialens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My experience at Disney Animation, however, was that they embraced social technologies. Our manager encouraged us to use Yammer, but did not discourage us from using Twitter! Even in a place where they had to keep a tight control over the content, they embrace social media!</p>
<p>My take on it is that a manager who is afraid of something like Twitter is also afraid of having an earnest conversation with their employees about the state of the organization and their work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Recalibrating Rule of Thumb vs. Scientific Management by Breanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. My company is currently going through a major reorganization that will change the way we work with other divisions and our longheld traditional product development lifecycle.

Management is approaching this reorg differently than usual. They are sharing the new org charts and explaining what is expected in terms of outcomes but letting employees figure out new linkages and how to engage others in the &quot;new&quot; organization. I think this is smart because even with the reorg and new development lifecycle, we all have the tools to figure out how to work together (and we&#039;ll figure this out faster and better than management could anyway).

Even so, some employees are reeling from what they sense as a lack of direction from management. I think it may take time for employees who are used to a lot of &quot;management from management&quot; to feel empowered to take the responsibility for some things that have traditionally been handed down to them. But I agree that this is a move in the right direction as the needs for management are changing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. My company is currently going through a major reorganization that will change the way we work with other divisions and our longheld traditional product development lifecycle.</p>
<p>Management is approaching this reorg differently than usual. They are sharing the new org charts and explaining what is expected in terms of outcomes but letting employees figure out new linkages and how to engage others in the &#8220;new&#8221; organization. I think this is smart because even with the reorg and new development lifecycle, we all have the tools to figure out how to work together (and we&#8217;ll figure this out faster and better than management could anyway).</p>
<p>Even so, some employees are reeling from what they sense as a lack of direction from management. I think it may take time for employees who are used to a lot of &#8220;management from management&#8221; to feel empowered to take the responsibility for some things that have traditionally been handed down to them. But I agree that this is a move in the right direction as the needs for management are changing.</p>
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